Takashi Miike
11:26 Thu Dec 15
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good post. we'd be much better off with a pair of cloggers in midfield. fucking showboating cunts
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Charoo
11:23 Thu Dec 15
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Like the 2 best players in the playground who only ever want to pass to each other.
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Spandex Sidney
11:23 Thu Dec 15
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Gloucester Iron 11:03 Thu Dec 15
This
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Gloucester Iron
11:03 Thu Dec 15
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I have no concerns what so ever about the Payet/Lanzini partnership.
They've not produced as much as last season simply because the whole squad have been fucking atrocious by comparison to last season.
To point only at a perceived lack of cohesion between these two is to miss the point completely, I'm afraid.
If we were playing with anything like the confidence of last year we wouldn't be having this discussion, would we?
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Fivetide
10:58 Thu Dec 15
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Tend to think the close passing game is worth it. Yes it can be ineffective for periods, and last night it took away our pace in the first half when we could have punished Burnley. But it's good to watch (and I've watched some awful shit over the years from WH), and it usually makes for at least a few nice through balls for Antonio to chase on to either for himself or to swing in to the box.
Antonio is an absolute diamond. Playing with such a hard working, willing team mate must be a dream. I bet he's a decent 'keeper too. Probably drives everyone on a night out and makes perfect ribs at 2am.
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jack flash
10:42 Thu Dec 15
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We looked far more of a threat before Lanzini came off
I thought Payet & Lanzini were just starting to link up well for the first time in ages, just before Lanzini got subbed
Neither has been in sparkling form & their shooting this season has been particularly poor
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Alvin Martini
10:41 Thu Dec 15
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However effective they may be they're a dam sight better to watch than a considerable proportion of the turgid dogshit that has been served up in my 40 years of watching West Ham. And I happen to think that they are pretty effective.
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Josh
10:35 Thu Dec 15
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We weren't too great prior to Lanzini going off but we had the ball. We really struggled when he did. He wouldn't have been who I'd have taken off.
Him and Payet work well together - Burnley worked as a unit of 4/5 when either had the ball, it was a difficult night for them both.
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Sven Roeder
10:31 Thu Dec 15
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Said during the match that Lanzini tended to be closest to Carroll almost as a second striker but that's not his game. He isn't a natural at reading knock ons and tends to stand still and then run for the ball.
He is a central midfielder who can carry the ball.
Seems to be part of our problem at the moment .... the parts of the jigsaw don't seem to fit and we don't play together naturally.
Antonio is the one that probably is the most natural at running onto any flicks by Carroll.
How we fit it all together I don't know.
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Hermit Road
10:19 Thu Dec 15
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The two of these yesterday were beautiful to watch. The passing, movement, control, anticipation was exceptional. Watching them together was like watching Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers at their peak. Add in Obiang passing too and we had the makings of something special.
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master
10:12 Thu Dec 15
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Lanzini should be playing off carroll, but instead plays off payet. Given he's doing a bad job of playing off carroll, he should be dropped for ayew, who I suspect will be better at it.
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chim chim cha boo
9:42 Thu Dec 15
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Any player who has the mantra 'get it to Payet' as soon as he receives the ball is okay with me.
Payet did a lot of chasing lost causes and tracking back last night which was great to see as he doesn't even do that for France.
We're as lucky as fuck to have a couple of playerss like Lanz and Dimi. Just watch West Ham when one of them is injured and you'll see why.
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Rossal
9:34 Thu Dec 15
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I also think with the 3-4-2-1 that we try to play Lanzini has not got a fucking clue what he is doing
Too many times he is not in the hole to break lines and is instead behind the ball where Obiang always is and most of the time Noble. This leads to Caroll being isolated up top where actually you need someone within 5 yards to buzz around the knock downs or hold up play
With 3 central midfileders just in front of 3 CB's you have 6 players that cant affect you offensively......thats not good enough against Burnley at home
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DagenhamDave
9:32 Thu Dec 15
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I disagree. They are responsible for some the rare spells of good football we play. When they link up I see the beginning of confidence.
The problem last night was sitting deep the whole second half on a one goal lead against a team we are miles better than. I hate to say it but Bilic again was at fault here.
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Troy McClure
9:30 Thu Dec 15
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Certainly think it needs addressing and I commend you on your post Banjo.
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Rossal
9:26 Thu Dec 15
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They play best when within 5-10 yards of each other which was easier to do on the UP pitch.
The bigger pitch combined with the new positions means they are less effective. They link up alot more when we play 4-2-3-1 and we need them to do that if we are going to win games with our current ST situation
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